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PeteG
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Location : near Avebury
|  Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font  Mon May 19, 2008 4:10 pm | |
| OR it could be an early example of face piercings.....
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tonyh
Joined : 15 Jan 2008
Posts : 850
Location : Surrey
| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Mon May 19, 2008 4:54 pm | |
| Can't help thinking that the carved figure was not so popular when they had the lid fixed to the font..
"Lets fix it to the bug##rs nose"...
More Tea Vicar? |
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Steve M
Joined : 05 Jan 2008
Posts : 502
Location : Yatesbury, Wiltshire
| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Mon May 19, 2008 5:27 pm | |
| From the Norman Pounds Shire Book on fonts:-
'Canon law required the water held in the font to be renewed each week but, as some visitation records show, it was often held very much longer than this. It is evidence for the long survival of pagan and superstitious practices that the water was not infrequently stolen and used in sorcery and other rites. In an effort to stop this, the Archbishop of Canterbury ordered fonts to be covered. In 1287 Bishop Quivil of Exeter went farther, ordering that the cover should be securely locked into place. Other bishops followed, and into modern times it was normal for fonts to be locked...'
'...the usual method was to use a wooden disc fastened in place by means of a metal bar which was locked to staples driven into the rim. Inevitably the staples did irreparable damage...' |
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tonyh
Joined : 15 Jan 2008
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Location : Surrey
| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Mon May 19, 2008 5:56 pm | |
| " It is evidence for the long survival of pagan and superstitious practices that the water was not infrequently stolen and used in sorcery and other rites."
How on Earth would they know that...
Why would they use Christianised water when they had access to sacred spring and well water..
Confused... |
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Rose
Joined : 18 Jan 2008
Posts : 154
| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Mon May 19, 2008 7:24 pm | |
| Could there be a possible link between the depiction of the Female imagery on the Winterbourne Monkton Font and the Male imagery on the Avebury one? Possibly connected by a long lost Avenue heading northwards towards what is now called Avenue Farm? Also I'm sure I've heard of leylines being referred to as Dragon lines. This is all just off the top of my head and probably no connections at all, but musings worth putting out there for discussion perhaps?
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BumblingB
Joined : 19 Jan 2008
Posts : 215
| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Mon May 19, 2008 8:56 pm | |
| | I think you'll find that the defacing of the image was by post Reformation Anglicans, the cover was much later and the staple put where the damage had already occurred. |
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june
Joined : 07 Jan 2008
Posts : 471
Location : Wiltshire
| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Mon May 19, 2008 11:34 pm | |
| | Rose wrote: | | Could there be a possible link between the depiction of the Female imagery on the Winterbourne Monkton Font and the Male imagery on the Avebury one? Possibly connected by a long lost Avenue heading northwards towards what is now called Avenue Farm? Also I'm sure I've heard of leylines being referred to as Dragon lines. This is all just off the top of my head and probably no connections at all, but musings worth putting out there for discussion perhaps? |
I've just been looking at Terence Meaden's chapter "Neolithic Ruins and Mysteries" where there is a picture of the Winterbourne Monkton font. To quote"The winter springs which erupt from the downs hereabouts join to form the source of the Winterbourne stream. One brook passes just north of the stone circles. Before reaching Avebury the Winterbourne flows through Winterbourne Monkton where the church has a 12th century naked fertility goddess engraved on one side." Looking at Terence's black and white photo of that font, it does not appear to have been defaced in the same way that the Avebury one has - which is interesting in itself given the destruction of religious artifacts (post reformation) that BB mentions. Pehaps it was saved by its 'pre' christian associations. But then there is a puzzling question - how/why did a 'fertility goddess' get to be carved on a 12th century Christian font?? And yes, I agree with Rose, intuitively, it feels the two fonts were connected in some way.
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tonyh
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Location : Surrey
| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Tue May 20, 2008 7:39 am | |
| Monkstown was were the alien monks from Avebury settled after leaving the Avebury Priory. They had a Chapel at Avebury. But did they have a Font and did they take it with them?.
Where the Alien monks still in dispute with Avebury Church after they moved or had it all settled down?.
Is the Monktown Front an alien Front (Normandy Norman) or English Norman?.
The Avebury Font I assume is English Norman...
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Steve M
Joined : 05 Jan 2008
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Location : Yatesbury, Wiltshire
| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Tue May 20, 2008 8:18 am | |
| What surprises me is how crude the carving is on these fonts. They're 12thC, but so is the amazing Green Man in Sutton Benger church (just north of Chippenham, near M4). That is such a fine quality carving - see all the individual hawthorn berries etc. I've been to see it several times - first time I thought it must be a 20thC replacement!
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tonyh
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Tue May 20, 2008 11:13 am | |
| | Steve M wrote: | What surprises me is how crude the carving is on these fonts. They're 12thC, but so is the amazing Green Man in Sutton Benger church (just north of Chippenham, near M4). That is such a fine quality carving - see all the individual hawthorn berries etc. I've been to see it several times - first time I thought it must be a 20thC replacement!
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I agree, they are crude compared to the work the Normans were capable of... |
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PeteG
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Location : near Avebury
| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Wed May 21, 2008 12:23 am | |
| Has anyone noticed that there are HunkyPunks on the spires of Avebury church?
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PeteG
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Wed May 21, 2008 12:32 am | |
| Before you start imagining beefy vicars with mohican hairdo's a Hunkypunk is a mythilogical creature that clings to the side of the church as if about to leap off but has no function, unlike gargoyles which are often water spouts.
A hunkypunk has to have space between its legs which shows the sky.
They are usualy only found in Somerset but Avebury church has them as does Marlborough.
Wandering Masons maybe?
Here's a pic
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BumblingB
Joined : 19 Jan 2008
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Wed May 21, 2008 5:13 pm | |
| | PeteG wrote: | Has anyone noticed that there are HunkyPunks on the spires of Avebury church?
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There is also a rather unusual ambulatory, only a couple of other churches in Wiltshire have them I think. Hilmarten and Bremill are the churches from memory. |
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BumblingB
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Wed May 21, 2008 5:18 pm | |
| | As we are thinking about the font image it is as well to recall Saint Samson c.490-565, who was supposed to have carved a cross in a standing stone to Christianise it, he also was saids to have subdued a serpent. |
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PeteG
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Wed May 21, 2008 5:27 pm | |
| | BumblingB wrote: |
There is also a rather unusual ambulatory, |
if you get off your apse to see it... |
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Steve M
Joined : 05 Jan 2008
Posts : 502
Location : Yatesbury, Wiltshire
| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Wed May 21, 2008 11:53 pm | |
| | Just looked up St Samson - very confusing! Also spelled 'Sampson'. There's no mention of standing stones or serpents that I can find... |
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moss
Joined : 22 May 2008
Posts : 26
| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Thu May 22, 2008 7:34 am | |
| | BumblingB wrote: | | As we are thinking about the font image it is as well to recall Saint Samson c.490-565, who was supposed to have carved a cross in a standing stone to Christianise it, he also was saids to have subdued a serpent. |
I have been following this thread on fonts, so here's my 2ps worth....
There's a 5th century Saint Keyne (Keynsham) who subdued the serpents there. The 'serpents' this time were the ammonites that you can find, like the sarsen stones in Avebury they are built into the cottages, probably the Stoney Littleton ammonite came from here. Also St.Hilda at Whitby did the same; And not too far away from Avebury you have the Roman 'healer' statue embedded in the Tockenham church, with a snake on his staff... not sure how that was interpreted in medieval times.. |
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tonyh
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Location : Surrey
| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Thu May 22, 2008 10:47 am | |
| Saint Samson is often depicted with a crozier a book and sometimes in the company of a dove..
He moved to Brittany and founded a cathedral at Dol... Twenty odd miles away is a town call St Samson Sur Rance and near by, is the Thiemblais menhir - Which has carvings - Including Crosses and serpents |
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BumblingB
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Thu May 22, 2008 10:56 am | |
| | Steve M wrote: | | Just looked up St Samson - very confusing! Also spelled 'Sampson'. There's no mention of standing stones or serpents that I can find... |
http://www.peran.org.uk/Saints.htm |
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BumblingB
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Thu May 22, 2008 10:59 am | |
| | tonyh wrote: | Saint Samson is often depicted with a crozier a book and sometimes in the company of a dove..
He moved to Brittany and founded a cathedral at Dol... Twenty odd miles away is a town call St Samson Sur Rance and near by, is the Thiemblais menhir - Which has carvings - Including Crosses and serpents |
I don't think I knew about the crosier. |
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Thu May 22, 2008 12:45 pm | |
| | tonyh wrote: | Saint Samson is often depicted with a crozier a book and sometimes in the company of a dove..
He moved to Brittany and founded a cathedral at Dol... Twenty odd miles away is a town call St Samson Sur Rance and near by, is the Thiemblais menhir - Which has carvings - Including Crosses and serpents |
I have only seen a rough drawing of what is found on the menhir , they
are quite difficult to see and there doesn't appear to be a clear
photie on the web . It is suggested that the engravings are Neolithic
if so it might be more apropriate to describe the "serpents " as
serpentiforms to distinguish them from the Christian metaphor of the
Devil , evil , paganism etc whereas in the Neolithic the serpentiform ,
if symbolising anything would not be the above but possibly the passage
of the moon .
Crosses are rare in Neolithic carvings unless of course they are later
Christian defacements , the crook (simplified crozier )on the other hand is very common
particularly in Brittany where it is found mainly in passage graves but
also on the menhir at Kermarquer . |
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tonyh
Joined : 15 Jan 2008
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Location : Surrey
| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Thu May 22, 2008 1:05 pm | |
| | tiompan wrote: | | tonyh wrote: | Saint Samson is often depicted with a crozier a book and sometimes in the company of a dove..
He moved to Brittany and founded a cathedral at Dol... Twenty odd miles away is a town call St Samson Sur Rance and near by, is the Thiemblais menhir - Which has carvings - Including Crosses and serpents |
I have only seen a rough drawing of what is found on the menhir , they
are quite difficult to see and there doesn't appear to be a clear
photie on the web . It is suggested that the engravings are Neolithic
if so it might be more apropriate to describe the "serpents " as
serpentiforms to distinguish them from the Christian metaphor of the
Devil , evil , paganism etc whereas in the Neolithic the serpentiform ,
if symbolising anything would not be the above but possibly the passage
of the moon .
Crosses are rare in Neolithic carvings unless of course they are later
Christian defacements , the crook (simplified crozier )on the other hand is very common
particularly in Brittany where it is found mainly in passage graves but
also on the menhir at Kermarquer . |
Thanks for the info..
It's quite amazing where a road will lead having left Avebury..
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tonyh
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Fri May 23, 2008 11:49 am | |
| So... Is it definitely St Samson? It does look likely to be so....
Is the story of the stone connected to it's placement in Avebury Church, or mere coincidence?.
Why would the Normans have a Celtic Saint on their Font?.
And where did the Font come from?.
Not forgetting the damage to the rim of the Font.... |
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BumblingB
Joined : 19 Jan 2008
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Sat May 24, 2008 5:13 pm | |
| | tonyh wrote: | So... Is it definitely St Samson? It does look likely to be so....
Is the story of the stone connected to it's placement in Avebury Church, or mere coincidence?.
Why would the Normans have a Celtic Saint on their Font?.
And where did the Font come from?.
Not forgetting the damage to the rim of the Font.... |
Well I mentioned St Samson because the story fitted, and if he has been shown elsewhere with a crosier that fits too. But are there any other examples of a single Saint appearing on a font ?
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tonyh
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Sat May 24, 2008 8:14 pm | |
| | BumblingB wrote: | | tonyh wrote: | So... Is it definitely St Samson? It does look likely to be so....
Is the story of the stone connected to it's placement in Avebury Church, or mere coincidence?.
Why would the Normans have a Celtic Saint on their Font?.
And where did the Font come from?.
Not forgetting the damage to the rim of the Font.... |
Well I mentioned St Samson because the story fitted, and if he has been shown elsewhere with a crosier that fits too. But are there any other examples of a single Saint appearing on a font ?
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That's what I thought...
More questions than answers...
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june
Joined : 07 Jan 2008
Posts : 471
Location : Wiltshire
| | Subject: Baptism Mon May 26, 2008 9:14 pm | |
| On the subject of Baptism, I came across this little passage about John the Baptist by mythologist, Joseph Campbell:
The rite of baptism was an ancient rite coming down from the old Sumerian temple city Eridu, of the water god Ea, "God of the House of Water". In the Hellenistic period,Ea was called Oannes, which is in Greek Ioannes, Latin Johannes, Hebrew Yohanan, English John. Several scholars have suggested, therefore, that there was never either John or Jesus, but only a water-god and a sun-god.
Everyone knows that the 'birthday' of Jesus is linked to the re-birth of the sun (god) at the winter solstice what I didn't know was that John the Baptist was supposed to have been born at the midsummer solstice which in pagan mythology was the celebration of the festival of water. I am sure it has already been said (but not under this topic) perhaps Stonehenge was built as a temple to the sun or winter solstice and Avebury built as a temple to the water goddess/god or midsummer solstice.
Last year's interference with Silbury and subsequent flooding, which started soon after the project began - I recall being out at Avebury early May last year and getting caught in torrential rain - it seems that in symbolic terms at least, the Avebury/Silbury water goddess was very angry !! Just mulling stuff over, no disrespect intended to anyone who is a Christian but as someone who was taught as a child that it was a mortal sin to question your faith (a form of child cruelty I feel) I now question everything, especially Christianity. |
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Mon May 26, 2008 10:59 pm | |
| | june wrote: | On the subject of Baptism, I came across this little passage about John the Baptist by mythologist, Joseph Campbell:
The rite of baptism was an ancient rite coming down from the old Sumerian temple city Eridu, of the water god Ea, "God of the House of Water". In the Hellenistic period,Ea was called Oannes, which is in Greek Ioannes, Latin Johannes, Hebrew Yohanan, English John. Several scholars have suggested, therefore, that there was never either John or Jesus, but only a water-god and a sun-god.
Everyone knows that the 'birthday' of Jesus is linked to the re-birth of the sun (god) at the winter solstice what I didn't know was that John the Baptist was supposed to have been born at the midsummer solstice which in pagan mythology was the celebration of the festival of water. I am sure it has already been said (but not under this topic) perhaps Stonehenge was built as a temple to the sun or winter solstice and Avebury built as a temple to the water goddess/god or midsummer solstice.
Last year's interference with Silbury and subsequent flooding, which started soon after the project began - I recall being out at Avebury early May last year and getting caught in torrential rain - it seems that in symbolic terms at least, the Avebury/Silbury water goddess was very angry !! Just mulling stuff over, no disrespect intended to anyone who is a Christian but as someone who was taught as a child that it was a mortal sin to question your faith (a form of child cruelty I feel) I now question everything, especially Christianity. |
There is quite a good link between henges and water , many are low lying , close to rivers ,ditches prone to flooding etc . Shiel Bridge henge usually requires wellies to visit being at the head of a loch . One of the most important Neolithic sites in Scotland , Blackhouse Burn enclosure had part of it's structure built in a bog . There are a few that are found on higher contours but they are a minority . |
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june
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Tue May 27, 2008 1:47 pm | |
| | My bit about the Water Goddess being angry sounds a bit bonkers in the clear light of day - that what happens on a wet bank holiday, too much mulling. Can I retract that bit! |
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tonyh
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Tue May 27, 2008 1:55 pm | |
| | june wrote: | | My bit about the Water Goddess being angry sounds a bit bonkers in the clear light of day - that what happens on a wet bank holiday, too much mulling. Can I retract that bit! |
Not a chance... 
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Tue May 27, 2008 2:38 pm | |
| | june wrote: | | My bit about the Water Goddess being angry sounds a bit bonkers in the clear light of day - that what happens on a wet bank holiday, too much mulling. Can I retract that bit! |
Can't have enough mulling .
"mmmmm mulling " H. Simpson |
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june
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Tue May 27, 2008 7:17 pm | |
| Thanks Tony and Tiompan for making me laugh .... at work as well. I learnt a long time ago to laugh at myself. Life is so much easier if you don't take yourself too seriously. Besides I'm easing myself into eccentricity!  |
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BumblingB
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Tue May 27, 2008 7:20 pm | |
| | june wrote: | | Thanks Tony and Tiompan for making me laugh .... at work as well. I learnt a long time ago to laugh at myself. Life is so much easier if you don't take yourself too seriously. Besides I'm easing myself into eccentricity! |
You should never play with eccentricity. Call in an eccentrician!
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june
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Tue May 27, 2008 7:36 pm | |
| | Where can I find one ....... they don't seem to be in Yellow Pages! |
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tonyh
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Tue May 27, 2008 8:07 pm | |
| It's interesting that you speak of the Goddess of water June...
Joseph Campbell's Water God Ea was formerly know as
Ennki - Thats what He was kown as, by the Sumerian's
Enki was not perfect, as God of WATER he had a penchant for beer and as God of SEMEN he had a string of incestuous affairs. In the epic Enki and Ninhursag, he and his consort Ninhursag had a daughter Ninsar. When Ninhursag left him he came upon and then had intercourse with Ninsar (Lady Greenery) who gave birth to Ninkurra (Lady Fruitfulness or Lady Pasture)...
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june
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Tue May 27, 2008 8:42 pm | |
| | tonyh wrote: | It's interest that you speak of the Goddess of water June...
Joseph Campbell's Water God Ea was formerly know as
Ennki - Thats what He was kown by the Sumerian's
Enki was not perfect, as God of WATER he had a penchant for beer and as God of SEMEN he had a string of incestuous affairs. In the epic Enki and Ninhursag, he and his consort Ninhursag had a daughter Ninsar. When Ninhursag left him he came upon and then had intercourse with Ninsar (Lady Greenery) who gave birth to Ninkurra (Lady Fruitfulness or Lady Pasture)... |
You've done some interesting research there Tony. I knew nothing about Enki until I came across the passage I quoted. Going back to the John the Baptist / Jesus scenario, in the book "The Jesus Mysteries - was the original Jesus a pagan god" the authors make the point that both had apparently miraculous births - John born to an old infertile woman and Jesus born to a mother that was unfertilised. The symbolism being that John is born at the summer solstice when the sun begins to wane and Jesus is born six months later at the winter solstice when the sun begins to wax. Hence John's declaration "He must grow greater, I must become less".
When I first read this book it didn't seem to have much bearing on the seasonal pagan rites of the British Isles but the closer you look the more similarities you find. I have to use that word again - fascinating. |
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tonyh
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Tue May 27, 2008 9:05 pm | |
| To be honest..
I find the Jesus stuff a bit boring..
Sorry.....
I will say this though...
John is recorded in the Bible as being born six months before Jesus. Jesus's birth date was not recorded and the idea that it was on December 25th was popularized by Sextus Julius Afrecanus in AD 221. (Why. who knows ???)
Eastern Christianity places his birth date on January 6/7th.
Some scholars are suggesting that the actions of the shepherds indicate a Spring date...
The probability is, that the December date was just a way of Christianizing the Solstice....
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PeteG
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Wed May 28, 2008 1:36 am | |
| 
this is similar to the Cornish Font design....
PeteG
Rag and bone legacy is pure gold
A metal cup acquired by a rag and bone man from Somerset has been revealed to be a pure gold goblet from the 3rd or 4th Century BC, worth up to £500,000.
The vessel has two female faces looking in opposite directions with their foreheads decorated with a snake motif.
William Sparks, who ran a scrap metal business in Taunton during the 1930s and 40s, left the ancient treasure to his young grandson John Webber.
The goblet is to be sold by Duke's auction house in Dorchester, Dorset.
Mr Webber, 70, said: "My grandfather was originally a proper rag and bone ban from Romany stock and lived in a caravan.
Ancient civilisation
"My father died in the war and afterwards my grandfather gave me some things shortly before he died.
"One of the things was the cup which I remember playing with. Because he mainly dealt in brass and bronze, I thought that was what it was made from."
After forgetting about the cup for years he rediscovered it last year when he moved house.
"I sent it to the British Museum and the experts there hadn't seen anything like it before and recommended I had it tested at a laboratory," said Mr Webber.
The analysis confirmed its age and that it had been painstakingly crafted from just one piece of gold.
Peter Northover, the scientist who reported on the gold analysis, said in the report: "The method of manufacture and the composition of the gold are consistent with Achaemenid gold and gold smithing."
The Achaemenid empire was based around Persia, but at its height stretched from Iran to Libya. It was wiped out by Alexander the Great in 330 BC. |
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tonyh
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Wed May 28, 2008 6:18 am | |
| Not a Font.
A Church wall painting, circa 1200 ... Chaldon Church. Surrey.
The serpent is there on the tree of knowledge..
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tonyh
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BumblingB
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Wed May 28, 2008 10:11 am | |
| | PeteG wrote: |
this is similar to the Cornish Font design....
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I have missed something here, which font Pete?
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june
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Wed May 28, 2008 1:48 pm | |
| | tonyh wrote: | It's interesting that you speak of the Goddess of water June...
Joseph Campbell's Water God Ea was formerly know as
Ennki - Thats what He was kown as, by the Sumerian's
Enki was not perfect, as God of WATER he had a penchant for beer and as God of SEMEN he had a string of incestuous affairs. In the epic Enki and Ninhursag, he and his consort Ninhursag had a daughter Ninsar. When Ninhursag left him he came upon and then had intercourse with Ninsar (Lady Greenery) who gave birth to Ninkurra (Lady Fruitfulness or Lady Pasture)... |
Have just been reading up on Enki (in my lunch-break) under Wikipedia and Encyclopedia Mythica - there is a lot of really, really interesting information there. Lots I want to say but can't now as need to get back to work. I'll come back to this one later if I may, too interesting to just let disappear.
Thank tony !
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PeteG
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Wed May 28, 2008 3:11 pm | |
| | BumblingB wrote: |
I have missed something here, which font Pete?
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Do pay attention at the back!
Look at the first page of this thread near the bottom for photos of the Lostwitheil font,
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PeteG
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Wed May 28, 2008 4:31 pm | |
| Ah Wikipedia that trusted source that claims BB was the first Chinese ballerina to climb everest!
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tonyh
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| | Subject: Re: Meaning of the Font Wed May 28, 2008 4:40 pm | |
| | PeteG wrote: | Ah Wikipedia that trusted source that claims BB was the first Chinese ballerina to climb everest!
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